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By: david IP: 99.28.160.1 Date: - 9/3/2010 1:00:11 AM
NSFW:
re:
Nyjer Morgan

much ado about nothing
this shit happens all the time in baseball

I remember a few years ago when ricky henerson was getting ready to retire, he stole 3rd when his team was up by seven runs. The opposing manager had a shit fit accusing him of "padding his stats", "poor sportsmanship", etc...
wtf?
really?
the team in question had come back from a bigger deficit less than a week earlier, and now tonight, we're supposed to think that rickey henderson is supposed to stop playing baseball (which the crowd paid money to see) to save their feelings?
really?
does that mean you've conceded the game and won't take a win if you accidentally catch up?
is it padding your stats to swing at a 3-1 curveball over the plate with a seven run lead?


fuck I hate baseball
By: jomamma IP: 173.8.179.237 Date: - 9/2/2010 2:00:39 PM


Born in SF, grew up in Alberta, made it to High Junior.
By: Nyjer Morgan IP: 66.54.159.26 Date: - 9/2/2010 12:16:21 PM
good luck with the storms, Bill
By: ap IP: 132.190.164.60 Date: - 9/2/2010 12:08:44 PM
Hurricaine Earl on his way to the Cape, with Fiona right up his ass...

"Forecasters were trying to pinpoint how close the strongest winds and heaviest storm surge would get to North Carolina's Outer Banks, a fragile chain of barrier islands. They also were trying to determine whether the category-four storm would remain offshore as it heads north, or bring hurricane-force winds to Long Island, Cape Cod and the Boston area, the Associated Press reported."




Despite a bright sunny day on the Carolina coast, the huge storm several hundred miles across was heading north at around 18 miles (30 kilometers) per hour.

The NHC also issued a hurricane warning for coastal Massachusetts, including the popular retreat areas of Cape Cod, Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard, while the Canadian Hurricane Centre issued a hurricane watch for parts of Nova Scotia.

Tropical storm warnings meanwhile were issued for points all along the US East Coast, while President Barack Obama signed a disaster declaration for North Carolina, ordering federal assistance to support response efforts.


By: db IP: 151.204.242.30 Date: - 9/2/2010 11:53:03 AM
On the same night last week:
Giants came back to tie a game they were down 9, and lost in the 11th.
Rockies came back from down 9 against Braves to win.


By: db IP: 151.204.242.30 Date: - 9/2/2010 11:39:49 AM
but regarding the stolen bases, just in the past couple weeks, two teams have come back from 9 or 10 runs.
By: em IP: 66.54.159.26 Date: - 9/2/2010 11:27:35 AM
I agree with you and the Marlin's commentator... Morgan is the GOON of MLB.

and congrats to Coz for winning August and thereby keeping the money in the Bay Area...


By: db IP: 151.204.242.30 Date: - 9/2/2010 11:25:47 AM
On the play at the play, it was just stupid. He would have been safe if he slid. Nyjer appealing a suspension from last week. He pulled a Joey Belle and pegged a heckling fan with the ball.
By: em IP: 66.54.159.26 Date: - 9/2/2010 11:12:35 AM
Classic footage: As Nyjer Morgan is walking off the field, taunting the Florida crowd, the Marlin's anylist is saying "...This guy has some serious problems... if MLB doesn't do something about Nyjer Morgan, then they're coming up short..."

By: db IP: 151.204.242.30 Date: - 9/2/2010 11:09:46 AM
Baseball needs to follow hockey's 3rd man in rule...



Apparently, Nyjer Morgan deserved it after a questionable take-out of the Marlin's catcher on a ply where he was going to score easily - he decides to destroy the catcher - because he can.

Then i heard that this Nyjer Morgan guy is a former hockey player. No doubt form what I've seen him do. He goes into every base looking to punish the would-be defender, he overslides ever base. He stole 3rd in a late inning with a like an 5-run lead...

But here he gets blindly clotheslined by Marlin's 1st baseman. Get's up and gestures to the crowd like PJ Stock.

By: db IP: 151.204.242.30 Date: - 9/2/2010 11:04:07 AM
Hicks also had a hand in ruining hockey for a time.
By: dc IP: 75.3.249.37 Date: - 9/2/2010 10:17:26 AM
Rangers sent a boat load of cash to the Yankees, too, 67 million. So, they paid 133 million dollars to Rodriguez for 3 years service and they averaged 72 wins during those 3 years. Hinks was so arrogant. He paid 50% more than anyone else offered. And he basically said, "I'm gonna make so much money off this deal, I own all the property around the ball park, we're going to win..." You see where they are now.
By: em IP: 66.54.159.26 Date: - 9/2/2010 10:10:12 AM
"#13 Alex Rodriguez Traded by the Texas Rangers with cash to the New York Yankees for a player to be named later (Joaquin Arias) and Alfonso Soriano (2/16/04). Not sure how this trade wasn’t top 5? Lets go back in time, the Rangers wanted to get out from Arods mammoth contract. He also wanted to go to a contending team, the Yankees had Jeter at SS, so the Red Sox were the prime destination. The trade was something like Lester and Manny (plus others) for Arod, then the Sox were going to flip Nomar to the White Sox for Magglio Ordonez. Everything was pretty much set, but the Red Sox wanted to defer too much money on Arods deal and the union balked. Aron Boone then blew out his knee playing hoops and the Yankees needed a 3B, next thing anyone knew, he was a Yankee. Obviously there was a lot more to it then just that, but you get the gist. Had the Red Sox made this deal, would they have won the World Series in ’04? Who knows. What I do know is I was devastated when Arod went to the Yankees, only when he started to choke after game 3 of the ALCS was I happy that the deal did not happen. Still, the “what ifs” about this trade are boundless. Magglio would suffer a server back injury that could have really hurt the Sox,. Arod got his ring last season, but it was only after the Yankees made it clear that he didn’t need to be the star. Arods post season failures from 04-07 are epic, there is just no way of knowing what would have happened if he had been traded to the Red Sox. I do know that if this trade did happen, I would have lost out on rooting for my favorite player in baseball, Jon Lester. As it turned out for the Rangers, they improved once they got rid of Arod. This trade is like Transformers, it’s more than meets the eye."

By: db IP: 151.204.242.30 Date: - 9/2/2010 10:02:17 AM
Anybody check out the MLB network's Top 40 trades of all time?

"#10 Willlie McGee Traded by the New York Yankees to the St. Louis Cardinals for Bob Sykes (10/21/81). Finally the Yankees are on the bad end of a trade. McGee may have been snorting coke up his asshole, but the guy could play. Sykes never even played for the Yankees."

Here's a link to a good commentary on that episode...

By: Memorable MLB Trades IP: 151.204.242.30 Date: - 9/2/2010 9:59:37 AM
2 weeks until training camp, 5 weeks until the opening game of the season
By: can't wait! IP: 71.135.122.199 Date: - 9/1/2010 11:51:52 PM
Rumor Guerin to Philadelphia on a tryout?
By: Rumor IP: 75.3.249.37 Date: - 9/1/2010 6:09:10 PM
or Myers suffered the "it's not a save situation, I can't get the adrenaline up" that closers often suffer in non-save situations.
By: jon IP: 99.154.52.41 Date: - 9/1/2010 5:15:06 PM
Myers had pitched well for the Blue Jays that season, converting a good % of his save chances.

He mustve been hurt, or they must have figured they had someone else coming along who could close for them. Turned out to be a brilliant move by the Toronto GM, though maybe not if every other GM shunned him for the rest of his career if they think he sold damaged (but undisclosed) goods.
By: ap IP: 76.220.52.205 Date: - 9/1/2010 4:08:05 PM
sorry I misunderstood you, Jon
By: ap IP: 76.220.52.205 Date: - 9/1/2010 4:03:16 PM
bizarre part is that San Diego didn't sue Toronto!!!

:-)

I wonder if it got hard for the Toronto GM to later make deals, if the other GMs saw this as Toronto peddling damaged goods.

I never really thought about the world of baseball GMs, but they don't appreciate it when a guy pisses in the pool. It's a small community and there needs to be trust. That's a big problem with neophyte (sic?) GMs, i have read
By: ap IP: 76.220.52.205 Date: - 9/1/2010 4:01:15 PM
OK, to clarify, I thought it was a bizarre move, until understood the waiver wire. Once I did that, I understood it was a blocking move. Perhaps the bizarre part was that Toronto didn't pull Myers back. But who knows how much they knew about his health.
By: jon IP: 99.154.52.41 Date: - 9/1/2010 3:36:51 PM
Jamison steps down.
By: dc IP: 75.3.249.37 Date: - 9/1/2010 3:29:08 PM
Rumor: Kings after Penner
By: dc IP: 75.3.249.37 Date: - 9/1/2010 3:11:44 PM
Lehtinen calls it a day.
By: dc IP: 75.3.249.37 Date: - 9/1/2010 3:11:32 PM
Niemi to the Sharks
By: AT IP: 192.12.78.250 Date: - 9/1/2010 3:04:10 PM
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/myersra01.shtml
By: Myers stats IP: 76.220.52.205 Date: - 9/1/2010 2:54:15 PM
ps Myers pitched poorly for the Padres. This was his last stint in the majors.
The Pardes paid the last 2+ years of his salary, over $13M.

but that doesn't mean it was bizarre or a blunder

it just means that you and I don't necessarily understand all the parameters that go into a deal like this

and the Padres DID make it to the World Series and DID beat the Braves, and DID make WAYYYYYY more than $13M MORE $$ by doing that than they would have if they didn't beat the Braves, eh?

I'm not criticizing you, Jon. Am only criticizing pointing to a waiver claim gone bad as "blunder" or "bizarre" when it may have accomplishedd exactly what was intended.
By: ap IP: 76.220.52.205 Date: - 9/1/2010 2:53:17 PM
I wasn't meaning to criticize you, Jon

and Myers wasn't very good - he stunk. Check out his numbers.

and it wasn't a "blunder" if it accomplished exactly what it was INTENDED to accomplish, namely that Atlanta didn't get him

Maybe the Padres GM knew that his particular lineup, slated to face the Braves IF they were so lucky, wouldn't match up well against Myers

It's not a "blunder" just becasue Wiki says or because other GMs say or even if the claiming-GM says
By: ap IP: 76.220.52.205 Date: - 9/1/2010 2:46:41 PM
I referred to it as bizarre - because it was a VERY expensive blocking move. Wiki called it a blunder.
The padres used Myers in 21 games and in the playoffs because he was very good.
By: jon IP: 99.154.52.41 Date: - 9/1/2010 2:35:42 PM
cb: no idea re bike rental (though others will know - though there is this thing called Yelp which is probablyh more reliable than the douchebags here)

if you want to swing by San Mateo, you can use my bike for free.

It's a mountain bike, but I also have road tires. Just adjust the seat and you'd be fine, I think. You can take both sets of wheels and use how you like.

but it is a hassle to come down here from SF


By: ap IP: 76.220.52.205 Date: - 9/1/2010 2:25:18 PM
Can anyone recommend a bike shop in the City that rents decent road bikes? I'm in town next week and needing one for a day?
By: cb IP: 207.193.212.116 Date: - 9/1/2010 2:17:19 PM
From: Denver, CO -
As to Myers and 1998
If it was so stupid, why did the Padres put Myers into 21 games? And he finished 5 of those.
And Myers made the post-season roster and pitched in 4 NLCS games and 3 (of the 4) WS games. And of those 7 appearances, he finished 3 of them.
Myers pitched poorly, but he was still valuable enough that they used him.

(I guess its worth checking if he was mopping up after the games were lost. But somebody needs to do THAT, too!)

I'm not saying the Pares WANTED the waiver claim to be succewssful, but they did use the guy (and they did beat the Braves)

(ps Jon is simply reiterating common knowledge - the Myers claim is often referred to when people talk about stupid waiver claims)
By: ap IP: 76.220.52.205 Date: - 9/1/2010 2:04:37 PM
Nice pickup by San Ho. But is Niemi for real? We'll find out in front of that defense.
By: dc IP: 75.3.249.37 Date: - 9/1/2010 2:00:53 PM
it happense. it's a game of chicken. But you still keep the rival from getting the guy and that's the main objective, no? The Sox can't afford for their rivals (ahead of them in the standings) to get any better than they are.

I think it shows they are still in the hunt. Maybe they did it to bamboozle their fans to think that Sox management still thinks it is in the hunt. This way the dopey fans keep tuning in. The Sox don't want TV/Radio numbers to fall off. If they don't claim Napoli, Sox fans say "BoSox management has given up. I'm no longer gonna watch them on TV or listen on radio."

and ad revenues plummet

am I off base?
By: ap IP: 76.220.52.205 Date: - 9/1/2010 1:53:11 PM
I think one of the more bizarre waiver wire transactions I ever saw (and I had to look up details).

The Padres' 1998 waiver claim of Myers is considered one of the biggest blunders in the history of the waiver wire. The Padres did not want Myers, mostly because of the $12 million and 2 additional years remaining on his contract as well as the fact that they already had an established closer in Trevor Hoffman, but placed a waiver claim in order to prevent him from going to the rival Atlanta Braves. They expected the Blue Jays to rescind their waiver claim, but the Blue Jays instead allowed the waiver claim to go through, leaving them responsible for the rest of his contract.[2]

By: jon IP: 99.154.52.41 Date: - 9/1/2010 1:35:11 PM
Dammmmmit, ESPN reporting Niemi to Sharks...two Finnish goalies...still not enough to root for the Sharks, but a good fall back position to get on the bandwagon in June if need be...
By: Timo IP: 64.73.242.69 Date: - 9/1/2010 1:27:10 PM
Chelios retired. Canadians, Blackhawks and the Red Wings. Then he finishes as a Thrasher. too bad he couldn't have skated with the Leafs, Bruins and Rangers for a month each last season.
By: em IP: 66.54.159.26 Date: - 9/1/2010 1:26:23 PM
Referring to the lack of activity on the board, not your post. Waiver wire claims is a game within itself. Teams might sign a guy to prevent him from going to a divisional rival.

Back to my nap.

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By: RV Winkle IP: 67.131.111.245 Date: - 9/1/2010 12:58:07 PM
Yeah, waiver wire is easily manipulated but some guys get through and some team get to dump salary. it works pretty well.
By: em IP: 66.54.159.26 Date: - 9/1/2010 12:43:00 PM
Clever post, Numbnuts.

By: db IP: 151.204.242.30 Date: - 9/1/2010 12:28:02 PM
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By: RV Winkle IP: 67.131.111.245 Date: - 9/1/2010 12:19:40 PM
So the Waiver wire and waiver claims in MLB is all just a big play by players and GMs to get teams to teams to take a player (and his salary)... but not just any team... So, lots of times, a team will claim a player with no intention of actually getting him, but just so that a rival team will Not get the guy:

[Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim catcher/first baseman Mike Napoli(notes) has 21 homers this season, but the team put him on waivers.

The Boston Red Sox claimed him, but the Boston Herald reports that a deal is unlikely, and Napoli will probably be pulled back by the Angels and perhaps traded this winter.

The Herald reports the claim on Napoli, 28, was done mostly to keep him from getting selected by a rival, such as the Tampa Bay Rays.

"That's the way it goes, man," Rays second baseman Jason Bartlett(notes) told the Herald. "That's smart on their part. And obviously if we were in the situation they were in, we'd probably do the same thing. That's just being smart."]
By: db IP: 151.204.242.30 Date: - 9/1/2010 11:58:01 AM
In the three games as the leadoff man, he is a combined 7-for-11 with four homers and seven RBI. Overall, he has eight homers and 15 RBI in his past 16 games...

has been hot over the last 16 games, hitting .400 with six homers, 14 RBIs and 11 runs. The surge has also helped Cincinnati win 11 of those contests.
By: db IP: 151.204.242.30 Date: - 8/31/2010 10:53:14 AM
Bruce was having a down year. I wondered whether to pick him or Votto. I chose incorrectly.
By: em IP: 66.54.159.26 Date: - 8/31/2010 7:36:47 AM