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By: rookie goalies! IP: 75.24.111.8 Date: - 3/10/2010 11:01:22 AM

Red v. Blue regular season:
Game 1 - Red wins 4-3 in shootout
Game 2 - Red wins 8-5
(Regan returns)
Game 3 - Blue wins 8-0
Game 4 - Blue wins 8-2

By: predictions/odds?? IP: 75.24.111.8 Date: - 3/10/2010 10:58:28 AM

Chad Johnson and TO are teammates.
By: em IP: 66.54.159.26 Date: - 3/10/2010 10:38:29 AM

James Lick school is doing a car wash Saturday from 10 am to 2 pm. If you are coming down for the BASH playoffs you can park up on top and get your car washed for $10.

Remember the clocks move forward Sat night.

By: keelerkom IP: 99.14.223.250 Date: - 3/10/2010 10:36:02 AM

DB, they better f-ing get their s*** together. I am going to the game on Friday vs. the little f-ing dirty eskimo Tootoo and the rest of the Preds. All year long, they have really struggled on defense, choking away leads. Buuuuut, if they squeak into the playoffs, I always like their (or anyone's) odds against the Sharks...
By: Timo IP: 64.73.242.69 Date: - 3/10/2010 10:34:59 AM

Old enough to remeber when chick looked like this?

By: db IP: 68.163.246.156 Date: - 3/10/2010 10:03:06 AM

yeah, she puts her younger band mates to shame. She's got it all.
By: em IP: 66.54.159.26 Date: - 3/10/2010 10:01:12 AM

Joan Jett still looks great at 50... she still has that young, skinny punk thing happening, how th fck does she do that? Eat nothing and do tons of reps with 5lb. dumbells...?

By: db IP: 68.163.246.156 Date: - 3/10/2010 9:58:27 AM

...don't we still have one corey left?
By: just for the record IP: 173.8.179.238 Date: - 3/10/2010 9:30:18 AM

Joan Jett doing Cherry Bomb last night.
By: em IP: 66.54.159.26 Date: - 3/10/2010 9:11:16 AM

You guys under the hat just lost your biggest Celeb
By: Corey Haim Dead IP: 192.146.1.12 Date: - 3/10/2010 7:35:00 AM

Put him in a Seals jersey, he's JW's double from 1991.

By: db IP: 68.163.246.156 Date: - 3/10/2010 7:02:05 AM

Fan of the leafs, and apparently; bell bottoms...
By: Jomamma IP: 166.205.137.59 Date: - 3/10/2010 6:57:11 AM

• According to Sidney Crosby's(notes) agent, Pat Brisson, the Pittsburgh Penguins superstar had a full schedule and was unable to appear on the "Late Show with David Letterman" last week. Or he realized how big a of Leafs fan Dave is. [Post-Gazette]

By: db IP: 68.163.246.156 Date: - 3/10/2010 6:50:01 AM

Anaheim Ducks losing ground, sink toward the bottom of the deck, 13th place, ouch. [Timo] can they turn this around, and finish 8th, and give themselves a very good matchup agains a team they know they can beat in SanJose??

By: db IP: 68.163.246.156 Date: - 3/10/2010 6:43:54 AM

wow...
By: H IP: 24.5.82.146 Date: - 3/9/2010 11:39:18 PM

Canada sat back in the second and it burned them. You can't sit back if you don't have a strong defensive scheme, as bb pointed out, or you will get burned every time. And a tourney team usually doesn't have that, tho the BASH tourney team does.
By: dc IP: 99.171.70.11 Date: - 3/9/2010 1:53:09 PM

but IF the US had won...
By: H IP: 24.5.82.146 Date: - 3/9/2010 1:35:23 PM

That was a very underrated save on Pavelski. It would have beat him had he just stayed in his butterfly stance, but he realized quickly that he had no chance with the glove and twisted his arm around and thrust his elbow up to protect the top corner. Just barely got in front of it.
By: dc IP: 99.171.70.11 Date: - 3/9/2010 1:35:03 PM

Luongo's save on Pavelski was huge, that shot looked like it was headed just under the crossbar. one trip up the ice later, game over. But let's face it, if Luongo wasn't fighting rebounds all day, and had just caught that VERY routine shot with about 30 seconds left, there's no Parise goal to even send it to OT. So yeah, Miller got torched on what could have been a totally routine save, but all of that was made possible because Roberto dropped an easy shot. OT added tons of drama to the game, but US had won that drop would have been infamous
By: H IP: 24.5.82.146 Date: - 3/9/2010 1:31:28 PM

funny graph on Canadian water use during Gold Medal game.
By: em IP: 66.54.159.26 Date: - 3/9/2010 1:28:52 PM

and also you have to make those saves after long stretches of no shots or any activity at all. Very challenging.
By: sc IP: 76.192.48.119 Date: - 3/9/2010 12:21:58 PM

And the amazing saves are thought to be routine. People forget those very fast. Luongo made several in that game, including one just seconds before Crosby scored in OT.
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/9/2010 11:56:32 AM

Being goalie for Canada is less about talent than it is mental toughness. Every mistake is magnified.
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/9/2010 11:55:45 AM

I don't see anything wrong with the way Crosby celebrated THIS TIME. But that "woo-wee" shit was ridiculous.
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/9/2010 11:53:08 AM

That's right Lu-ong-ho wasn't exactly stellar... Canada coulda beat USA with Regan in nets.

By: db IP: 68.163.246.156 Date: - 3/9/2010 11:37:36 AM

I suspect Crosby also had some serious b.o. when he scored, ap, don't forget about that.

By: bb IP: 130.86.181.4 Date: - 3/9/2010 11:17:45 AM

lame probably isn't the right word

goofy is more accurate

but the dude is like 15 - eventually he'll celebrate in a non-goofy way
By: ap IP: 132.190.164.123 Date: - 3/9/2010 11:05:54 AM

I'm not so crazy about those goals Luongo let up, but all is forgiven.
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/9/2010 10:51:58 AM

And I'm sore about losing that game. But at least they lost it on a goal that was pretty much a really nice play. Wasn't like a cheap ricochet, triple-deflection, off a defenceman's ass kinda thing.

By: db IP: 68.163.246.156 Date: - 3/9/2010 10:45:50 AM

AP, shot down again... Miller shoulda made the easy save, Crosby's celebration was lame... What else can you say?

How bout this: Even though I thought Rafalski played hs best hockey over the entire tournament, if had to blame some one for that goal, it might be him, and he's probably going to play that back in his head about a million times between now and the very last time he goes to sleep... He leaves the front of the net, goes in the corner/half-boards for a puck that's 50/50... Crosby whacks it into the corner for Iginla... takes a step and he's BY BY BY Rafalski and on the way to the net and to IMMORTALITY...

By: db... IP: 68.163.246.156 Date: - 3/9/2010 10:42:30 AM

Sid that is.
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/9/2010 10:33:51 AM

At least didn't go "WOO-WEE!" this time.
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/9/2010 10:33:37 AM

NSFW:
...not me, I always liked that, finally during sex, someone else has a funnier look on their face than me :P

By: jose madre IP: 173.8.179.238 Date: - 3/9/2010 10:18:53 AM

NSFW:
In a recent survey into blowjobs and why men liked them so much, 6% liked the feeling, 12% liked the excitement and 82% just liked the silence.

By: halak jomamma IP: 173.8.179.238 Date: - 3/9/2010 10:18:28 AM

no, it wasn't. It would be nearly impossible to do something lame after scoring a golden goal and he didn't even come close.
By: em IP: 66.54.159.26 Date: - 3/9/2010 9:57:05 AM

yeah, Sid's post goal celebration was a bit lame
By: ap IP: 76.220.52.205 Date: - 3/9/2010 9:55:38 AM

Sid the Kid a la Brian Dawkins photoshop, but not as good.

By: em IP: 66.54.159.26 Date: - 3/9/2010 9:44:34 AM

and my email, if you're interested
By: em IP: 66.54.159.26 Date: - 3/9/2010 9:37:38 AM

That was from me.
By: em IP: 66.54.159.26 Date: - 3/9/2010 9:04:27 AM

I'm going to do it differently this year to keep people interested for the entire season. There will be winners for each month and an "extras" winner. And I will raise it to 30 bucks.

Say there are 10 entries @ $30. $120 will go to the overall winner. $25 to each monthly winner X 6 and $30 for most "extras"

For those that are new, it works like this: A list of MLB players shall be ranked in 7 tiers, you pick one from each tier and 3 "extras" that aren't listed in any tier. Highest total homers wins, for regular season and a separate one for each month (Sep will include part of October, but just regular season)

By: HR Derby IP: 66.54.159.26 Date: - 3/9/2010 9:03:54 AM

cg, thanks on both counts. After a period to warm up, I think I was passable as a 3rd stringer again.

dc will probably offer me lots of beer... at the BASH BASH, when I'm footin' the bill. :-)
By: jon IP: 76.103.86.127 Date: - 3/9/2010 7:30:11 AM

NSFW:
oh, I can't stay mad at danny, that loveable lug.
By: jon IP: 76.103.86.127 Date: - 3/9/2010 6:22:17 AM

I'm not gonna miss dc. second season in a row he's flaked for the season finale and left me to play nets (summer then regular).

:p
By: jon IP: 76.103.86.127 Date: - 3/9/2010 6:21:34 AM

LA is March 26-28 now. BASH playoffs may not be over yet
By: H IP: 24.5.82.146 Date: - 3/8/2010 11:49:41 PM

Last time you bailed, Karim and I (and the rest of the defending champ Roadrunners) had to deal with the next year sans you and Martin. That was a long year. I'm genuinely glad not to have to deal with your second retirement.

As soon as the stats are in for this year, I'll update all the files. Not counting last week (dod you even play if Mellie was in net??) you're sitting on an even 500 career regular season BASH points. Pretty cool milestone
By: H IP: 24.5.82.146 Date: - 3/8/2010 11:47:56 PM

Kerry has asked me to play on his Silver team. He was leading scorer of that league in the Fall season down there. I kinda wanna play Gold though. We'll see.

Not sure if I'll play on a BASH team or an LA team if BASH sends one for the Apr. 2 tourney (or is it March 26-28 now??). Either way, I'm sure I'll be playing against BASH sometime soon. Not gonna be easy cuz I love the BASH travel team. But I'm gonna join the LA team.
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/8/2010 11:40:10 PM

and on a serious note, good luck with the girlfriend and her family. Sounds rough. Wish you all the best.

I have a step-sister in Redondo and go down fairly often. There are tons of new bars for you to get banned from, hopefully I can get down there before you start chipping away at the list.
By: H IP: 24.5.82.146 Date: - 3/8/2010 11:38:44 PM

Dude, we may have erred in breaking up the Runners, not sure. There was more D in the draft than any of us expected. Would have been nice to take another crack at it, but losing Steph and Matt for at least half the year was a big blow. If I had to do it again, not sure.

By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/8/2010 11:38:26 PM

Danny may get to play with Kerry Hew again... saw his name on that SoCal list.

Kerry Hew, one of the many players (including me) that got drafted before Zilinskas in the 01-02 draft. Kerry was the Landsharks #1 pick that year... pretty sure he was #1 overall and Rats picked Christian B second, might have that backwards. Our second pick was Francois Daoud. Think we were 3-4 and playing fairly decent hockey, had Deming in net, solid enough D... but Francois lost his job and got yanked back to Canuckistan, Kerry stopped showing up (weak-ass bitch) then Deming stopped showing up because the 2 best guys had bailed (hard to blame him, although coming back after we traded him to Blue proved that he wanted to play, just bailed on us, which really f'd up our season... lost our final 13 games but had fun doing it.

Seems like a long time ago. Guess it was. But guess what? Black is back in the playoffs, baby!

Danny, sorry to see you go. Thanks for not protecting me this year.

By: H IP: 24.5.82.146 Date: - 3/8/2010 11:35:56 PM

Geez, if I ref that means I can't give my predictions for the playoffs... sigh.

Ah fuck it, I'll do it anyway.
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/8/2010 11:28:14 PM

I guess you can give me a DNP on my BASH hockey card for that one and it will be 17 years, like they used to do on the old hockey cards.

"Danny likes to ice fish in the off season."
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/8/2010 8:10:35 PM

You and Mark Pavelich.
By: Duns Scotus IP: 24.21.201.208 Date: - 3/8/2010 9:54:00 PM

Either that or play at Dry Ice or Bladium.
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/8/2010 9:26:23 PM

boyz - if we want to compete in these tourneys we need to build us one of those there rinks like socal hockey. time to persuade the school to let us use a big chunk of the upper playground! and put in real boards!
By: bc IP: 24.4.174.183 Date: - 3/8/2010 9:01:44 PM

There is now. booya
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/8/2010 8:44:43 PM

Here is Socal's rating system again for players. They have a "salary cap" down there.
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/8/2010 8:44:23 PM

There is not a single living person with a soul in LA.

By: db IP: 68.163.246.156 Date: - 3/8/2010 8:40:59 PM

By: ah yeah IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/8/2010 8:31:16 PM

By: ah yeah IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/8/2010 8:30:36 PM

I'm off to play in the KHL. Hopefully I can start up a rivalry between Socal and Norcal. Way too fuckin friendly right now.
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/8/2010 8:12:15 PM

Sandy and anyone else, let me know when down there and we'll tear up the Strand.
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/8/2010 8:11:16 PM

Venice.

I missed 05-06 while raising hell in NYC and Montreal.
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/8/2010 8:09:52 PM

redondo
By: sc IP: 76.192.48.119 Date: - 3/8/2010 7:45:27 PM

Your not you're
By: correction IP: 68.163.246.156 Date: - 3/8/2010 7:45:07 PM

dc - which part of LA? We're down in rendondo beach a ton. Some great visuals on the nearby beaches.
By: sc IP: 76.192.48.119 Date: - 3/8/2010 7:44:57 PM

NSFW:
You're first season was BASH's 3rd season, 93-94, right (back when you wore Euro-hot pants and sported a gay moustache...)? And this is year BASH's 19th year, so isn't it your 17th season? You miss a whole year somewhere in the middle?

By: db IP: 68.163.246.156 Date: - 3/8/2010 7:44:41 PM

All the best DC!

Confirmed, I'm moving to Los Angeles in three weeks. Guess that makes me a Socal Chief now. I will miss BASH bigtime tho.
By: dc IP: 99.171.70.11 Date: - 3/8/2010 3:22:29 PM
By: bobby c IP: 24.21.201.208 Date: - 3/8/2010 6:38:27 PM

I'm open to bribes.
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/8/2010 6:13:01 PM

the Seals don't even drink. They shouldn't even be allowed to play BASH. Disgrace to the fucking uni's, they are.

Landsharks have been drinking since LAST Saturday, when we clinched a playoff spot for the first time this millenium. We will play drunk. And we'll drag Danny the ref right along with us. He may get drunk just smelling our burps.

BLACK!
By: ap IP: 132.190.164.123 Date: - 3/8/2010 5:55:18 PM

Someone think of a good teaser for this one.
By: jeff goldblum IP: 209.131.62.145 Date: - 3/8/2010 5:29:58 PM

it just hailed like crazy for about a minute. already melted
By: chet IP: 75.24.111.8 Date: - 3/8/2010 4:42:48 PM

dc doesn't suck... Sorry to hear you're leaving.
By: bb IP: 67.172.186.206 Date: - 3/8/2010 4:31:54 PM

dc--sorry to hear about the illness... best wishes.

ap--danny might be reffing your game, so throwing him a party with the Seals might backfire. Or maybe it's superdoubleevilgenious
By: chet IP: 75.24.111.8 Date: - 3/8/2010 4:22:17 PM

come'on cg, it's not like they faced a real goalie.
By: jon IP: 99.154.52.41 Date: - 3/8/2010 3:02:40 PM

You had some good saves! Danny owes you a lot of beer to make up for him not showing up...
By: cg IP: 99.41.55.79 Date: - 3/8/2010 4:14:50 PM

Only made it to 16. I'll have to do one more as a part-timer I guess.
By: dc IP: 99.171.70.11 Date: - 3/8/2010 4:13:07 PM

BLACK!
By: BLACK IP: 132.190.164.123 Date: - 3/8/2010 4:08:53 PM

I suggest we do it THIS Friday night. Free Beer. And we invite only the Seals.
By: ap IP: 132.190.164.123 Date: - 3/8/2010 4:08:16 PM

and BASH has the money to do it!!
By: ap IP: 132.190.164.123 Date: - 3/8/2010 4:07:36 PM

we need a proper send off for dc
By: ap IP: 132.190.164.123 Date: - 3/8/2010 4:07:21 PM

Finished your 17-year BASH career. You may be excused now...

By: db IP: 68.163.246.156 Date: - 3/8/2010 4:02:04 PM

but today (today, today, today...) dc considers himself the luckiest man alive
By: jon IP: 99.154.52.41 Date: - 3/8/2010 3:58:22 PM

Girlfriend's father is ill. Plus, I didn't move to California for this bullshit. To the beach!
By: dc IP: 99.171.70.11 Date: - 3/8/2010 3:51:08 PM

or another BASH commuter. Where are you moving? Why?
By: chet IP: 75.24.111.8 Date: - 3/8/2010 3:31:11 PM

Confirmed, I'm moving to Los Angeles in three weeks. Guess that makes me a Socal Chief now. I will miss BASH bigtime tho.
By: dc IP: 99.171.70.11 Date: - 3/8/2010 3:22:29 PM

I lost ROY to Paul Caicco. I had more points per game and played half the year on a shit team and the other half on a line with Jordan and Raj. Paul was on a powerhouse offensive team. I think there should be a recount. Also, Paul didn't play a shred of defense.
By: dc IP: 99.171.70.11 Date: - 3/8/2010 3:06:58 PM

At least you didn't stand up at the awards ceremony and walk up to deliver a speech for an award that was announced to another player. Ouch.
By: dc IP: 99.171.70.11 Date: - 3/8/2010 3:05:36 PM

My therapist says I have issues letting go
By: AT IP: 192.12.78.250 Date: - 3/8/2010 3:04:26 PM

come'on cg, it's not like they faced a real goalie.

I only finished 39 points behind the rookie scoring leader. I think I got a couple votes...
By: jon IP: 99.154.52.41 Date: - 3/8/2010 3:02:40 PM

Though Lord knows I've never quite recovered from losing ROY to Millar in my rookie year...
By: bb IP: 67.172.186.206 Date: - 3/8/2010 3:00:19 PM

Over it must you get.

In the past it is.
By: Yoda IP: 67.172.186.206 Date: - 3/8/2010 2:56:06 PM

28 points isn't too bad, but I heard you need at least 4 or 5 points less than the leading-rookie scoring leader in order to win the Calder.

Zing.
By: AT IP: 192.12.78.250 Date: - 3/8/2010 2:41:11 PM

Landsharks bench with 14 penalty minutes! And no points!
What a goon!!!!!
By: Go Sharks! IP: 24.4.174.183 Date: - 3/8/2010 2:36:09 PM

Does youporn have a braille version?
By: bb IP: 67.172.186.206 Date: - 3/8/2010 2:24:53 PM

Ah, that explains it.

You're right about the rookie issue. So many really good rooks to choose from. Obviously, Ken has been solid in goal for Green, and Kelly Shea was a big plus for them too, but Jesse C. and Steve M. on Black were incredible. 28 points from a rookie is fantastic, esp. on a fairly low-scoring team, so Jesse gets my (hypothetical) vote. He was in on nearly half of Black's goals, which is ricockulous.

Steve M. was a real steady presence in net too, and plus he reffed!
By: bb IP: 67.172.186.206 Date: - 3/8/2010 2:22:00 PM

Brad--I only have the braille version of youtube.

Another close call for BASH rookie of the year.
By: chet IP: 75.24.111.8 Date: - 3/8/2010 2:02:06 PM

My apologies to Bill, that's impressive.
By: em IP: 66.54.159.26 Date: - 3/8/2010 1:54:52 PM

Bill was scoring champ last year.
By: chet IP: 75.24.111.8 Date: - 3/8/2010 1:47:35 PM

Congrats to all the regular season stat leaders and the playoff teams.
Millar almost won the scoring championship. When is the last time anyone but Matt won that? Millar got the assists, Matt got goals and points. Regan had the lowest GA, but is the minimum 10 GP for that award? If so, Kenny won. If not, Regan's would be a record, I believe. Steve and Kenny tied for the most wins. Don Batemen with the most PIMs.

It was another fun season, if though it was unsuccessful for the Runners.
By: em IP: 66.54.159.26 Date: - 3/8/2010 1:41:42 PM

Everyone on Blue got at least 1 point last week, even Jon Eckstein.
By: cg IP: 99.41.55.79 Date: - 3/8/2010 1:41:13 PM

Stats up....
By: AT IP: 192.12.78.250 Date: - 3/8/2010 1:27:43 PM

How do you guys find your way home from BASH? Braille crosswalks?
By: bb IP: 67.172.186.206 Date: - 3/8/2010 1:01:01 PM

Did you watch the Eruzione goal? That didn't go in the corner... It handcuffed Myshkin who was screened by a defenseman.

Try doing what Crosby did from that kind of angle, with a pass coming from where Iginla's came from. I guarantee you can't do it once in 1000 times, and even if you or I could, the ensuing shot would be soft, high and off-target.

Nice fake by Sittler, though.
By: bb IP: 67.172.186.206 Date: - 3/8/2010 12:55:06 PM

One of the experts here said that Miller guessed wrong and left a huge 5-hole. How did that take more skill? Crosby's deke-threat may have caused it, but his actual shot was easy.

Where Mike had to pick the corner from further out when the goalie saw it coming all the way.
By: chet IP: 75.24.111.8 Date: - 3/8/2010 12:50:14 PM

Don't forget about me!
By: Sittler IP: 208.46.196.83 Date: - 3/8/2010 12:47:52 PM

A lot more skill from Crosby on his OT winner than was involved in either Henderson's or Eruzione's...

imho
By: bb IP: 67.172.186.206 Date: - 3/8/2010 12:42:49 PM

Weak-assed goaltending from Myshkin. Different story if it's Tretiak in there...
By: Here's Eruzione's IP: 67.172.186.206 Date: - 3/8/2010 12:39:20 PM

Plus that was in Moscow, after 4 games behind the Iron Curtain, after being down all game and tying it late, shorthanded half the time, after J.P. Parise nearly killed a ref... And on and on.
By: dc sucks IP: 67.172.186.206 Date: - 3/8/2010 12:36:27 PM

Bad turnover by the Soviets, admittedly.
By: Goal of the Century IP: 67.172.186.206 Date: - 3/8/2010 12:33:29 PM

Have you actually watched that whole series, dc? Seems like it's time to go back to Canadian Hockey History 101.
By: bb IP: 67.172.186.206 Date: - 3/8/2010 12:28:06 PM

WTF, dc?

Oh, I see. It's because a Toronto Maple Leaf scored the deciding goal. Now it makes sense.

By: bb IP: 67.172.186.206 Date: - 3/8/2010 12:26:21 PM

Popular Science archive now online.
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/8/2010 12:21:54 PM

I'm not sure why Canadians celebrate that 72 series. They played like a bunch of douchebags and just barely beat a team that was supposed to be comprised of amateurs. And those amateurs didn't have the same elite competition to hone their skills that the Canadians did.

The US Miracle win is a much bigger deal hockey-wise imo. Not even close. It's storybook and shit.
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/8/2010 12:18:44 PM

The best proposal I’ve heard so far comes from Detroit Red Wings GM Ken Holland, who has always been known to be one to cut to the chase. His proposal would have made the Richards hit a suspendable offense. In his rule, if a player is looking in one direction and he is hit directly in the head from a player on the blindside, the offending player would receive an automatic two-minute penalty, or a major and a game misconduct at the referee’s discretion, and would be automatically subject to supplemental discipline with heavy suspensions that increase for subsequent offenses.

“We’re talking about three or four hits a year,” Holland said.

It’s not perfect and I don’t think it goes far enough, but it’s probably about as close to action as we’re going to see on this front from GMs. Even then, I’m not convinced there will be any consensus on the issue coming out of these meetings. The more we see of this issue, the more I’m convinced the NHL is either going to have to leave the rule alone and deal with having their most valuable assets regularly taken off on a stretcher or they’ll have to place an outright ban on head shots the way the Ontario League has done.

“All I can say is something needs to be done to stop these hits,” Rutherford said. “This is a tough one, but the alternative is not to do anything about it.”

By: db IP: 68.163.246.156 Date: - 3/8/2010 11:28:11 AM

It's true that a shoulder to a head is not a penalty. Probably should and will be someday soon, but now it isn't, so Cooke's hi was techically "clean". There was no penalty, so i guess the got it right.

But... Cooke has a track record of making this EXACT same hit: to the head, from the blind side, just after the player releases the puck and is following through with his shot - and can't see the hit coming AT ALL.

He's knocked out 3 or 4 other guys n this EXACT SAME HIT. Look it up yourself.

By: db IP: 68.163.246.156 Date: - 3/8/2010 11:18:10 AM

Regan - email me for a lawyer I used last year. Ben
By: bc <bcompton64@gmail.com> IP: 65.114.77.225 Date: - 3/8/2010 10:50:35 AM

bb gets extra points for describing the cartography and population in the same phrase
By: Tucker IP: 75.109.250.113 Date: - 3/8/2010 10:27:23 AM

anyone know a good HR lawyer they can recommend to me?
By: Regan IP: 76.230.128.237 Date: - 3/8/2010 10:26:12 AM

Florida: America's flaccid dick.
By: bb IP: 67.172.186.206 Date: - 3/8/2010 10:04:59 AM

Nevada: America's appendix?

I like this game

By: suidan IP: 64.253.166.252 Date: - 3/8/2010 9:25:05 AM

Mexico: America's phallus...
By: tucker IP: 99.161.122.169 Date: - 3/8/2010 9:18:49 AM

dc, you're a disappointment to Canadians everywhere for saying that.

Chet, I'm laughing with you but disagreeing with you too. Sergei Prokofiev indeed. Do I hear a Modest Mussorgsky?

New slogan for the USA: Canada's sewer!!!
Wait, that makes me...
By: bb IP: 67.172.186.206 Date: - 3/8/2010 9:09:09 AM

I think if that play was two no name third liners opinions might not be so clear cut. Since it's Matt Cooke and Marc Savard we may all be treated to a crucifixion.

From the one angle that was posted to youTube it doesn't seem so clear cut. For the sake of argument think on the following.

* Cooke had chosen his path several seconds before Savard took the shot. He didn't change direction to get a head shot.
* Savard's head was extended forward on his follow through, he made himself vulnerable.
* Savard pulled up as he shot, the hit would have been shoulder to shoulder if he continued on his original path.
* Cooke didn't extend his arms or appear to alter his posture to go after Savard's head. * It looked like he was prepared for a shoulder to shoulder hit.
* There isn't a penalty for hitting someone in the head (yet)
* The puck was in the area less than a second before the hit

As a Sharks fan I hate Matt Cooke as much as the next guy but I think his rep is what's going to get him suspended here. If this had been Scott Stevens doing the hitting or Matt Bradley getting hit the issue wouldn't be so crystal clear.
By: Tucker IP: 99.161.122.169 Date: - 3/8/2010 8:52:07 AM

the thing about two things is, for the first part of my life I thought of myself as a french canadian from massachusetts, and for that span cooke's hit on savvy wasn't illegal and to some extents, even regaled.
the second half of my life I've been on the left coast where I too see the populous more from a regional-perspective, along the way, hockey has gotten to the point where almost everyone realizes they could kill a guy every shift, so you don't try to kill a guy on any shift.
makes really good hits worth even more when you know that the destruction witnessed also cam with due regard, therefore: respect

hard to support a guy who doesn't respect another

cooke is a douche

forcible maple-badger violations for him and all that would give succor to him

By: halak jomamma IP: 173.8.179.238 Date: - 3/8/2010 2:06:17 AM

Canada's hat... I look at it as regional. And those borne to shitty circumstances seem entitled to surreal entitlement, whether it be liberal, conservative or whatnot. I'm a nomad, so I look at regions very closely. Canada's regions rank very high per capita, weather notwithstanding. brrr
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/8/2010 1:43:36 AM

I'll go with Eruzione, even tho the Russians say they were drinking vodka on the bench.
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/8/2010 1:39:04 AM

I hope someone DESTROYS Matt Cooke...that hit was worse that Richards'
By: AT IP: 24.130.33.58 Date: - 3/8/2010 12:06:03 AM

By: just for the record IP: 173.8.179.238 Date: - 3/7/2010 11:38:50 PM

Eruzione's goal is by and far the most important goal in hockey hx.

Where as, no one out side of canuckistan ever heard of Paul Henderson or might be alive now to remember it, Eruzione's goal was the "shot heard 'round the world" for hockey.
It single-handedly made hockey relevant to the US market as well as displaying before the world the growing cracks in the "impenetrable" soviet facade to the rest of the world.

truth be told
all 30 million of "america's hat" could tune into a hockey game and still get beat by american idol in the tv ratings

By: jomamma IP: 173.8.179.238 Date: - 3/7/2010 11:38:27 PM

don't throw your own daughter under the bus. Everyone (who's anyone) has heard of Mozart because of his greatness. Paul Henderson is the Sergei Prokofiev of great hockey goals.
By: chet IP: 75.24.111.8 Date: - 3/7/2010 10:43:53 PM

Chet, I think the discussion was "greatest" not "best-publicized."

My daughter hasn't heard of Mozart, but that doesn't mean he isn't greater than Barney the Dinosaur.
By: bb IP: 67.172.186.206 Date: - 3/7/2010 8:13:45 PM

hate how looch was on the ice and never even tried to kill cooke...didn't know what happened until too late

assholes on the bench...point out WHO FUCKING DID IT so your best player can be avenged...not later in the game, not next game...RIGHT FUCKING NOW you fucking stiffs
By: matt cooke IP: 173.8.179.238 Date: - 3/7/2010 8:06:38 PM

HUGE mistake by hiller in the shoot out

puck caught up in equipment and he let his momentum carry himself and the puck into the net...it comes free and squirts in while he looking for it...save would have won the game

he just needed to stop and fall forward

montreal finishes it on the next shot

By: HALAK IP: 173.8.179.238 Date: - 3/7/2010 7:57:21 PM

I have never heard of Paul Henderson. Yes that means I'm a moron. But it also means you are wrong.
By: Chet IP: 166.205.139.205 Date: - 3/7/2010 7:54:48 PM

"...I don't know, I was just finishing my check, it felt like shoulder to shoulder, but I didn't see it"

ass hat

third time this season he'll be suspended for illegal hits

suppose you need a retard who's willing to kill a guy if you want to win championships...but it makes it easy to root against ya then

wonder what the leauge would be saying if a third liner took cindy's head off
By: matt cooke IP: 173.8.179.238 Date: - 3/7/2010 7:52:32 PM

NSFW:
Matt Cooke = douche bag

hopefully someone will come along and add dead-man
By: jomamma IP: 173.8.179.238 Date: - 3/7/2010 7:18:54 PM

There goes your recent citizenship, Brad. You're out.
By: Nolan IP: 69.232.192.244 Date: - 3/7/2010 7:04:54 PM

I see why Amerks got all worked up about 1980 since it was the Cold War and all, but still.

And what about Mike Bossy's winner vs the Russians in the 1984 Canada Cup semifinal? That was a damn good goal too. My first really amazing hockey memory (remember, I was/am a Leafs fan)...
By: bb IP: 67.172.186.206 Date: - 3/7/2010 6:41:45 PM

At the risk of sounding like a rah-rah Canadian (which I am), it's ridiculous in my eyes to rank Eruzione's goal ahead of Henderson's if you're thinking in terms of significance for the game of hockey. The 1980 gold medal was a symbolic victory of one bunch of (reasonably genuine) amateurs--the USA team--over a bunch of fake amateurs--the USSR. Does anyone think that was a real test of hockey supremacy. Ha.

Also, the Eruzione goal only mattered because of what happened afterwards and because of it. The USA went on to win the gold, and the country's attention was briefly diverted from a dozen other sports to hockey. The Henderson goal was THE deciding moment in essentially the last gasp of an 8-game series that held people riveted all the way through. The 1972 series was a clash of the titans, not a happy little David-beats-Goliath fairy tale (which has its points). It was also a turning point in hockey history, when the Russkies showed their best could beat Canada's best (at least some of the time), until Canada salvaged its national honor (identity, even).

Okay, now you can all kill me...
By: bb IP: 67.172.186.206 Date: - 3/7/2010 6:31:45 PM

1. Yes! Mike Eruzione, USA 4, USSR 3, 1980 Olympics at Lake Placid;
2. Henderson scores for Canada! Paul Henderson at 19:26 of the third, Canada 6, USSR 5, Game 8, 1972 Summit Series in Moscow;
3. Crosby's Golden Goal, Canada 3, USA 2 in OT, 2010 Olympics;
4. Mario Lemieux from Wayne Gretzky at 18:34 of the third, Canada 6, USSR 5, 1987 Canada Cup in Hamilton, Ontario;
5. Peter Forsberg's postage stamp shootout goal for the Gold against Corey Hirsch, Sweden 3, Canada 2, 1994 Olympics at Lillehammer.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/sid_blows_nhl_golden_chance_22VH7UimsoimIdQfehXQTJ#ixzz0hXeIfBeQ
By: Greatest Goals IP: 24.21.201.208 Date: - 3/7/2010 4:58:51 PM

Ottawa, Boston and the Rangers could upset someone because they have goaltending. Halak could steal some games, but Montreal's D should ALL retire.
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/7/2010 11:41:26 AM

Teams you WANT to get in the first round:

Philly, Ottowa, Boston, Montreal, Rangers...

You dot want to have to play Pittsburugh, Buffalo, or Washinton.

In the West, if you could pick, you wouldn't want:
Well put it this way, the only team that really can't win is Detroit. I'm a big fan of Jimmy Howard, though.

I found out that Jimmy Howard is actually a descendant of Curly Howard.

By: db IP: 141.149.173.241 Date: - 3/7/2010 7:35:34 AM

Gonna come down to matchups as always. Miller can steal any series, unless it goes to overtime (badump ching!).

Nobody moves the puck better that I've seen than either Pittsburgh or Chicago. Washington is a lot meaner and has more depth on defense now. But Varlamov will have to steal that job and prove himself for reals, otherwise nuh-uh. Brodeur's fall is a strange one. Is he a roider?? Jersey's blueline isn't enough otherwise.

If Detroit can get healthy, they could be an early round menace. Lidstrom has been pacing this year, but is he finished? He's playing well lately, but can he go the distance three straight years? I think not.

Not sure Buffalo has the scoring to deal with Pittsburgh in the East. Washington and Jersey are the only other threats. Ovechkin will have to out-monster Crosby. Not easily done.

San Jose is slow and stupid and have an average defense, despite the numbers. The playoffs are a different game. They better not run into Detroit or any team that can skate.

Chicago has the goalie thing. Niemi will have to grow up fast because there's no way Huet can handle a full ride to the Cup. He's not an endurance guy. They'll have to split the chores somehow. That's the only thing stopping Chicago from being a sure thing to the finals. But they're so smart and skate and move the puck really well. That will take a lot of pressure off the D, as will their size and grit. I think they'll get there anyway.

Gotta go with an upset in the East. How can Pittsburgh possibly do three years straight? Their team D tightens, we've seen that, so it will be hard to stop them. I think Varlamov will steal the job and get Washington to the Cup. I don't think Buffalo's D can withstand video analysis or Ovechkin and the depth the Caps now have.

Looks to me like Caps-Hawks in the final as of now, barring injury. Two tough teams. Hawks have the advantage in puck movement tho.

I guess I'm saying I think Chicago is gonna win the Cup.

zzz
By: dc IP: 24.6.35.64 Date: - 3/7/2010 12:29:54 AM